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"Smile 90.4FM" Radio Interview (Audio) 00:09:22 "Smile 90.4FM" Radio Interview (Audio) Audio Duration : 00:09:22 Saya Pierce-Jones Interviews Prem Rawat

This interview excerpt of Prem in Cape Town, South Africa paints a picture with words. What is missing in the world is that we have lost touch with our humanity. Understanding is the interwoven cord that binds us all—beyond words and labels.

The Lite Breakfast with Prem Rawat 00:36:23 The Lite Breakfast with Prem Rawat Audio Duration : 00:36:23 The Lite Breakfast Show with Steve and Shiraz

Host: The Lite Breakfast with Steve and Shaz and your Relaxing Favorites. Joining us this morning is the founder of the Prem Rawat Foundation, the author of a brand new book called Splitting the Arrow – Understanding the Business of Life, is Peace Ambassador, Prem Rawat.

Welcome Prem.

Prem Rawat:Thank you. Thank you for having me today.

Hostess:Now Prem, what compelled you as a 4 year old to speak out about peace at your father’s meetings? Did you expect to make a difference or to matter in front of an audience of adults who might be dismissive of what a child that young would have to say?

Prem Rawat on South Africa fm News Radio 00:12:59 Prem Rawat on South Africa fm News Radio Audio Duration : 00:12:59 We have all become experts at identifying the problem.
Prem Rawat on Jacaranda Radio FM 00:01:59 Prem Rawat on Jacaranda Radio FM Video Duration : 00:01:59 Dignity is not taught to somebody. Dignity comes from within people themselves.

Although the systemized racial oppression of Apartheid was abolished in 1991, its legacy still haunts South Africa.

Rian van Heerden, host at Jacaranda radio in Johannesburg, South Africa, opens The Complimentary Breakfast Show with a provocative question, “Will South Africa ever truly experience peace?”

“Peace is not a luxury. And peace is not a word. In fact, peace is a feeling. And like we need to sleep, like we need to eat, like we need to drink water, like we need to breathe air, we actually need peace in our lives.”

Prem continues, “Without peace our functioning breaks down; our basic thinking breaks down. Our perceptions break down. And we no longer can function as a human being, properly.”

Jacaranda 94.2 FM is the largest independent radio station in South Africa and boasts a listening audience of 2 million people a week, and a digital community of more than 1.1 million people a month.

It’s the morning commute and Rian invites his audience to call in to speak with Prem.

Written by Francisca Matos

Discovery Not Creation 00:05:16 Discovery Not Creation Video Duration : 00:05:16 Anything that we have to create means that it’s not in us already. But peace is ...

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Discovery Not Creation
Radio Interview Excerpt

Umhlobo Wenene FM Radio
Johannesburg, South Africa

Zizo and KCi
Interview Prem Rawat

Zizo Tshwete:
I’d like to know, when you go around and you teach the principles of having peace, do you think it's important that the leaders of nations buy into the idea so that it filters through to the people, or do you speak more to individuals?

Prem Rawat:
Well, let me just clarify one thing: I don't teach and I don't preach, and that's absolutely out of the question for me. All I want to do at most is to say things to people that will cause them, that will evoke something in them to start thinking for themselves, to start understanding, “Yes, peace has always been inside of me.” If I don't feel that peace, it is because of the obstacles that I have created, not somebody else has created. I have created for myself.

You know, distraction. You have to be attracted to a distraction. Because a distraction might be doing something, but then you get attracted to that distraction and that attraction takes you away from where you want to be attracted to. 

To be fundamentally sound, a building is built on a foundation. You don't see the foundation. Nobody decorates a foundation because it's buried. But the integral structure of that building, actually the integrity of that building depends not on what you actually see, but what is the foundation.

So, what is the foundation of a human being? You know, do you want to be happy? I don't see anybody going to any church, any temple, any God, and saying, “God, I've had too much fun. I'm too happy. Please do something to reduce this happiness.” When we get sad, we do do that. We say, “This is too much sadness. I want to get rid of sadness.” What does that tell you? That tells you that we like to be content, that we like to be happy, that we like to be in peace. We like to be in joy. We like to be in clarity.

Zizo Tshwete:
Right.

Prem Rawat:
And we don't like confusion. We don't like anger. We don't like fear. We don't like these things, but they're both in us absolutely.

I mean, if I may, I can tell you a little story, if that's okay. Once upon a time, there was a settlement. And in the settlement a lot of people were living and there was a chief. And one day the chief was approached by a young kid and he said, “Chief, I have a question. I'm confused. I have a question.” And the chief said, “What?” He says, “Sometimes I see that people are good. And sometimes I see the same people who are good, they are bad. How can this be? I mean, either a person is good or a person is bad.”

But he says, “No. Sometimes people are good. And then sometimes they're bad.” And the chief said, “That's because there are two wolves in us, a good wolf and a bad wolf. And they're fighting each other.” So, the boy thinks about it and said, “Why do they fight?” So, the chief says, “So they can have control over you. They can have supremacy over you.” So, the boy thinks about it and he says, “So, chief, tell me, which wolf is going to win?” And the chief said, “The one you feed.”

Zizo Tshwete:
Mm. Hmm. 

Prem Rawat:
So we feed the bad wolf.

KCi August:
Wow.

Prem Rawat:
The bad wolf will get strong. And a lot of people think we should beat the bad wolf. Beating the bad wolf is not going to help the good wolf. The good wolf has to be fed. Doing things to the bad wolf is not going to help anything. And sometimes we just get caught up. And it's like, if we could just remove the darkness from the room, there will be light, right?

KCi August:
I know.

Prem Rawat:
No. You know, you cannot take a bucket and try to remove the darkness and then hope there'll be light. No. Bring in the light and the darkness will automatically go away.

KCi August:
So, how do I get there somehow? Obviously, there'll be sacrifices along the way.

Prem Rawat:
No, no sacrifices. Because you already have it. See, there's a huge difference in trying to create peace in your life and trying to discover peace in your life. And I'm talking about discovery, not creation. Anything that we have to create that means that is not in us already, but peace is in us already.

Zizo Tshwete:
Wow, this is deep.

KCi August:
It’s more like finding peace in something that is already there.

Prem Rawat:
Exactly. It's discovery. It's discovery, not creation.

Prem Rawat on KayaFM 95.9 00:29:45 Prem Rawat on KayaFM 95.9 Audio Duration : 00:29:45 Prem Rawat is interviewed by Bridget Masinga, of Johannesburg’s most popular ind...

For many years, Prem Rawat has been referred to as a “Peace Ambassador” by millions of people around the world – an impressive title for sure. But what does that title actually mean – especially since the word “peace” means different things to different people. And “ambassador?” That word also brings a lot of different images to mind.In this upbeat, far ranging interview by the very animated Bridget M

asinga, of Johannesburg’s most popular independent radio station, KAYA FM, Prem elaborates. And as he does, the listening audience of 1.8 million, gets an unexpected opportunity to think about the topic in a new way – that, in fact, we are all Peace Ambassadors – or could be – as long as our “lamp it lit” and we have a passion for it.

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